Leading Complexity Video Podcast
This video podcast brings together Agile, Systems Thinking, Complexity Thinking, and Product Models in a way that’s easy to understand. In each episode, we explore innovative strategies with leading experts in leadership. Join us to learn how to help your organization thrive and lead in today’s fast-changing, complex, and highly competitive world.
Episodes
#8 – Interview with Simon Wardley
In this episode Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe interview Simon Wardley, the creator of Wardley Mapping. Wardley Mapping is a powerful tool for visualizing value chains and enabling strategic conversations about organizational complexity. Throughout the interview, Wardley shares the origins of his mapping method and its value in helping businesses navigate dynamic and unpredictable environments. Tomas and Michael listen to Wardley’s insights, highlighting key concepts such as Ashby’s Law of Requisite Variety and the importance of situational awareness.
#7 – Interview with Annika Steiber
In this episode, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with Annika Steiber, a renowned researcher in innovation management and author of influential books like The Google Model and Leadership for a Digital World. Annika shares her insights on how management must evolve in response to technological advancements, globalization, and sustainability challenges. She discusses the critical need for companies to innovate continuously, adapt their business models, and empower every member of their organization to act as a sensor, identifying emerging opportunities.
#6 – Interview with Gary Hamel
In this episode, Tomas and Michael interview Gary Hamel, one of the most influential and iconoclastic business thinkers of our time. Gary shares his revolutionary ideas on modern management, emphasizing the need to move beyond outdated bureaucratic structures. He discusses how empowering teams with business literacy, financial stakes, and a deep understanding of their operating context can unlock innovation and resilience in organizations. Gary also reflects on the historical roots of management and why it's crucial to reinvent management in today’s dynamic business.
#5 – Interview with Woody Zuill
In this episode, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe, are excited to talk with Woody Zuill, the creator of mob programming, now known as software teaming. Woody shares how collaborative teamwork can transform problem-solving in complex environments. Let’s dive into our conversation with Woody and discover how to lead your organization more effectively in a fast-changing world.
#4 – Interview with Bonnitta Roy
Join Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe as they dive into an insightful conversation with Bonitta Roy, followed by their thoughtful reflections on her wisdom. Bonnitta Roy is an international award-winning author, presenter, and trainer. She is the creator of the OPO – Open Participatory Organization and Founder of APP Associates International (now C-LABS). She is the author of the popular medium publication ‘Our Future at Work’. She is working on new ways to understand complexity, particularly through the lenses of post-formal actors, action protocols, and complex potential states.
#3 – Interview with Erin Meyer
Michael Göthe and Tomas Björkholm are listening to the interview with Erin Meyer and reflects on the content. Erin Meyer, the co-author of “No Rules Rules”, explores how a strong, dilemma-solving culture has been key to Netflix’s success.
#2 – Interview with Peter Block
Michael Göthe and Tomas Björkholm are performing an interview with Peter Block and give their reflections on what Peter is partner at Designed Learning, a training company that offers workshops designed to build the skills outlined in his books. His books include Flawless Consulting, Stewardship, The Answer to How Is Yes, Community, The Abundant Community, and An Other Kingdom.
#1 – Interview with Esther Derby
Michael Göthe and Tomas Björkholm perform and reflect on an interview with Esther Derby, a well-known thought leader within the Agile community, and give their reflections on the content.
